MH17

نوشتع شده توسط Guest, 23.07.2014 at 01:41

نوشتع شده توسط Meester, 23.07.2014 at 01:01

نوشتع شده توسط UnIeashed, 22.07.2014 at 17:58

نوشتع شده توسط Skanderbeg, 21.07.2014 at 09:05

Americans ordered them to fly over east ukraine, then they ordered ukrainian nazis to shoot at it. So CNN and BBC can report how russians shoot it down and 300 innocent victims is russian fault. They are even ordering their loyal dogs like UK and Australia to blame Putin. Nothing new.

30 years ago they ordered flight control to send south korean plane over USSR, although everyone knew flying over USSR is forbiden and it will be shot down instantly, USSR was clear on that matter. Yet, plane entered soviet air space and was shot down, 280 dead koreans, cnn reported how evil communists killed ''free people of the capitalist world''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

25 years ago US navy shot down iranian civil plane over iranian territory, all crew and passengers dead. USA used excuse how they saw military plane, so they fired, i spit on your 700 billion technology if you cant recognize civil and military plane, go back to making dog house, thats technology for you. They didnt allow investigation of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Putin ordered help to be sent, and funds if needed for ukraine and dutch investigators. But hey! it doesnt matter if you cooperate and help, you are bad, you deserve to die.

What the fuck? None of that can be proven where is the evidence saying that?

Wheres the evidence saying Russia shot it down? If you switch on CNN or BBC all they say about the incident is its Russia's fault because of the war on Ukraine.

You mean rebels, since hwo the hell could have Russia shot it down?

Yup rebels.

نوشتع شده توسط Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 14:53

I cant believe people believe in this theory ...this is one of the examples how people love stories based on crap.

Wana know what al qaeda commanders said to iran's president when he in a speach mentioned that america did an inside job on WTC?

They responded to iran's president something like this: "omfg lol bro, u mad xD ...americans didnt fuckin knock down WTC ...WE FUCKIN DID!!! ...retards with your dumbass conspiracy theories lawl"

lol.dude if you really believe 9/11 was alqaida you are very naive (and a little uninformed)

نوشتع شده توسط Khal.eesi, 23.07.2014 at 05:41

نوشتع شده توسط Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 14:53

I cant believe people believe in this theory ...this is one of the examples how people love stories based on crap.

Wana know what al qaeda commanders said to iran's president when he in a speach mentioned that america did an inside job on WTC?

They responded to iran's president something like this: "omfg lol bro, u mad xD ...americans didnt fuckin knock down WTC ...WE FUCKIN DID!!! ...retards with your dumbass conspiracy theories lawl"

lol.dude if you really believe 9/11 was alqaida you are very naive (and a little uninformed)

gona take it this is a joke xD ....good one

I don't like Russia.

نوشتع شده توسط Goblin, 23.07.2014 at 05:57

نوشتع شده توسط Khal.eesi, 23.07.2014 at 05:41

نوشتع شده توسط Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 14:53

I cant believe people believe in this theory ...this is one of the examples how people love stories based on crap.

Wana know what al qaeda commanders said to iran's president when he in a speach mentioned that america did an inside job on WTC?

They responded to iran's president something like this: "omfg lol bro, u mad xD ...americans didnt fuckin knock down WTC ...WE FUCKIN DID!!! ...retards with your dumbass conspiracy theories lawl"

lol.dude if you really believe 9/11 was alqaida you are very naive (and a little uninformed)

gona take it this is a joke xD ....good one

lol wow we really gonna do this?this is old..
first of all know who you are talking about.When you say the term alqaeda know that these mujahedins were trained funded and armed by Usa to fight the Russians.They werent al qaeda then, they were freedom fighters.They became alqaeda in the nineties when Usa needed to find a name to criminally persecute them like they did with mafias.

Lets moove to only a handfull of evidence that support the supposedly ridiculous conspiracy theory about 9/11.If you cant debunk them and answer to even the basic questions, then you need to withdraw the term.Logical thinking on the works.

- why didnt the pentagon AA shot down the plane?why the FBI confiscated 84/85 videos from pentagon security cameras and where are they?

- government claims wtc collapse hapenned due to heated jet fuels.
*heated jet fuel maxes at 1800f, bulding was designed to withstand as much as 2600f and 2000f+ for even 5-6 straight hours.
*based on the rules of physics buildings cant collapse due to fire on free-fall
*hundreds of witnesses claimed they heard and saw explosions take place
*plane debris

-where are the black boxes from the flights?how where the two boxes found "too damaged" but the passports of the perpetrators in good conditions?What is this magical tree that makes paper passports that can withstand 1800f and where do they grow?

-Why did the official investigation took 14 months to start?Titanic took 6 days, Challenger tragedy and Kennedy took 7days and Pearl harbor 9.

-Why did the official investigation had only 3 million dollars funding?Space Shuttle Columbia crash and Clinton's Whitewater scandal were both given 50 million dollars each.

- Witnesses made official statements claimingthat the weeks before 9/11 there were numerous unanswered and unusual drills where sections of both the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were evacuated for "security reasons"
-Also other official testimonies reported that there was a 36 hour "power down" in the upper half of the South Tower on September 8-9 to complete a "cabling upgrade," where security systems consequently were shut down and many workers ran around busily doing things unobserved.
-Also the bomb-sniffing dogs were inexplicably removed from the Twin Towers five days before 9/11?
Why all the above along with hundreds of other testimonies and allegations, even from eye witnesses, were never included in the official report?

Furthermore, the whole Patriot act bill was supposedly "created" and sent in parliament to be passed in only 7 days.Impressing.And following that we had another "terrorist attack" with the anthrax letters.By coinsidence it was sent to Senators who opposed the patriot act and numerous news reporters.We also had the Bush administration endorsing forged papers about Iraqs nuclear program after that?People in the International Atomic program agency said the papers were so badly forged that it was very surprising how they passed a government agency undetected.

This is only a few of the hundreds of "holes" in this case.Im bored to write more as all this is known for years and you can google and find out everything yourself if you want.

نوشتع شده توسط Khal.eesi, 23.07.2014 at 07:40

lol wow we really gonna do this?this is old..
first of all know who you are talking about.When you say the term alqaeda know that these mujahedins were trained funded and armed by Usa to fight the Russians.They werent al qaeda then, they were freedom fighters.They became alqaeda in the nineties when Usa needed to find a name to criminally persecute them like they did with mafias.

Lets moove to only a handfull of evidence that support the supposedly ridiculous conspiracy theory about 9/11.If you cant debunk them and answer to even the basic questions, then you need to withdraw the term.Logical thinking on the works.

- why didnt the pentagon AA shot down the plane?why the FBI confiscated 84/85 videos from pentagon security cameras and where are they?

- government claims wtc collapse hapenned due to heated jet fuels.
*heated jet fuel maxes at 1800f, bulding was designed to withstand as much as 2600f and 2000f+ for even 5-6 straight hours.
*based on the rules of physics buildings cant collapse due to fire on free-fall
*hundreds of witnesses claimed they heard and saw explosions take place
*plane debris

-where are the black boxes from the flights?how where the two boxes found "too damaged" but the passports of the perpetrators in good conditions?What is this magical tree that makes paper passports that can withstand 1800f and where do they grow?

-Why did the official investigation took 14 months to start?Titanic took 6 days, Challenger tragedy and Kennedy took 7days and Pearl harbor 9.

-Why did the official investigation had only 3 million dollars funding?Space Shuttle Columbia crash and Clinton's Whitewater scandal were both given 50 million dollars each.

- Witnesses made official statements claimingthat the weeks before 9/11 there were numerous unanswered and unusual drills where sections of both the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were evacuated for "security reasons"
-Also other official testimonies reported that there was a 36 hour "power down" in the upper half of the South Tower on September 8-9 to complete a "cabling upgrade," where security systems consequently were shut down and many workers ran around busily doing things unobserved.
-Also the bomb-sniffing dogs were inexplicably removed from the Twin Towers five days before 9/11?
Why all the above along with hundreds of other testimonies and allegations, even from eye witnesses, were never included in the official report?

Furthermore, the whole Patriot act bill was supposedly "created" and sent in parliament to be passed in only 7 days.Impressing.And following that we had another "terrorist attack" with the anthrax letters.By coinsidence it was sent to Senators who opposed the patriot act and numerous news reporters.We also had the Bush administration endorsing forged papers about Iraqs nuclear program after that?People in the International Atomic program agency said the papers were so badly forged that it was very surprising how they passed a government agency undetected.

This is only a few of the hundreds of "holes" in this case.Im bored to write more as all this is known for years and you can google and find out everything yourself if you want.

Your argumments are really really old and all have been debunked by simple answers ...but i guess some of you are so crazy with conspiracy shit that you wuoldnt believe it even if you were in the damn WTC.

Mujahedins btw. ...lol jesus, al qaeda is not only afgan mujahedins and not all afgan mujahedins became al qaeda.

Seriously all does argumments you posted ...they were all explained by ridicilously simple answers ... but please keep it complicated and on "maybe" theories.

Funny thing about conspiracy theories is ...they all have questions but cant provide a single answer ...pffft. Attention whores, and drama queens.

نوشتع شده توسط Goblin, 23.07.2014 at 07:58

نوشتع شده توسط Khal.eesi, 23.07.2014 at 07:40

lol wow we really gonna do this?this is old..
first of all know who you are talking about.When you say the term alqaeda know that these mujahedins were trained funded and armed by Usa to fight the Russians.They werent al qaeda then, they were freedom fighters.They became alqaeda in the nineties when Usa needed to find a name to criminally persecute them like they did with mafias.

Lets moove to only a handfull of evidence that support the supposedly ridiculous conspiracy theory about 9/11.If you cant debunk them and answer to even the basic questions, then you need to withdraw the term.Logical thinking on the works.

- why didnt the pentagon AA shot down the plane?why the FBI confiscated 84/85 videos from pentagon security cameras and where are they?

- government claims wtc collapse hapenned due to heated jet fuels.
*heated jet fuel maxes at 1800f, bulding was designed to withstand as much as 2600f and 2000f+ for even 5-6 straight hours.
*based on the rules of physics buildings cant collapse due to fire on free-fall
*hundreds of witnesses claimed they heard and saw explosions take place
*plane debris

-where are the black boxes from the flights?how where the two boxes found "too damaged" but the passports of the perpetrators in good conditions?What is this magical tree that makes paper passports that can withstand 1800f and where do they grow?

-Why did the official investigation took 14 months to start?Titanic took 6 days, Challenger tragedy and Kennedy took 7days and Pearl harbor 9.

-Why did the official investigation had only 3 million dollars funding?Space Shuttle Columbia crash and Clinton's Whitewater scandal were both given 50 million dollars each.

- Witnesses made official statements claimingthat the weeks before 9/11 there were numerous unanswered and unusual drills where sections of both the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were evacuated for "security reasons"
-Also other official testimonies reported that there was a 36 hour "power down" in the upper half of the South Tower on September 8-9 to complete a "cabling upgrade," where security systems consequently were shut down and many workers ran around busily doing things unobserved.
-Also the bomb-sniffing dogs were inexplicably removed from the Twin Towers five days before 9/11?
Why all the above along with hundreds of other testimonies and allegations, even from eye witnesses, were never included in the official report?

Furthermore, the whole Patriot act bill was supposedly "created" and sent in parliament to be passed in only 7 days.Impressing.And following that we had another "terrorist attack" with the anthrax letters.By coinsidence it was sent to Senators who opposed the patriot act and numerous news reporters.We also had the Bush administration endorsing forged papers about Iraqs nuclear program after that?People in the International Atomic program agency said the papers were so badly forged that it was very surprising how they passed a government agency undetected.

This is only a few of the hundreds of "holes" in this case.Im bored to write more as all this is known for years and you can google and find out everything yourself if you want.

Your argumments are really really old and all have been debunked by simple answers ...but i guess some of you are so crazy with conspiracy shit that you wuoldnt believe it even if you were in the damn WTC.

Mujahedins btw. ...lol jesus, al qaeda is not only afgan mujahedins and not all afgan mujahedins became al qaeda.

Seriously all does argumments you posted ...they were all explained by ridicilously simple answers ... but please keep it complicated and on "maybe" theories.

they have never been debunked or answered.they have just been covered up.And poorly.In the end its not a matter of opinion or belief.The evidence are there.As i said this is logical thinking and its pretty straightforward, i dont see much "theories" here or "hypotheses" in what i said.The only "theory" is the one the government tried to sell and is certainly very weak if you ask me.

p.s. dont take this as an insult cause its not, but im really dissapointed at you.I thought you were smarter than this

نوشتع شده توسط Khal.eesi, 23.07.2014 at 08:05

they have never been debunked or answered.they have just been covered up.And poorly.In the end its not a matter of opinion or belief.The evidence are there.As i said this is logical thinking and its pretty straightforward, i dont see much "theories" here or "hypotheses" in what i said.The only "theory" is the one the government tried to sell and is certainly very weak if you ask me.

Gona send you a link where all 9/11 questions have been answered, and a video that completly debunks any speculations about bombs being placed on the floors.

You know i read alot about conspiracy theories, 9/11, moon landing, etc. etc. ...and people who claim this conspiracies make it very interesting, make up some argumments, even provide some lame evidence, but in the end its all for their personal promotion, wanting to cause shock in people ...and its all pretty much bullshit.

نوشتع شده توسط Goblin, 23.07.2014 at 08:10

نوشتع شده توسط Khal.eesi, 23.07.2014 at 08:05

they have never been debunked or answered.they have just been covered up.And poorly.In the end its not a matter of opinion or belief.The evidence are there.As i said this is logical thinking and its pretty straightforward, i dont see much "theories" here or "hypotheses" in what i said.The only "theory" is the one the government tried to sell and is certainly very weak if you ask me.

Gona send you a link where all 9/11 questions have been answered, and a video that completly debunks any speculations about bombs being placed on the floors.

You know i read alot about conspiracy theories, 9/11, moon landing, etc. etc. ...and people who claim this conspiracies make it very interesting, make up some argumments, even provide some lame evidence, but in the end its all for their personal promotion, wanting to cause shock in people ...and its all pretty much bullshit.

yes please do because all that i have read so far supposedly "debunking" is some pretty weak shit, government workers managed to come up years after.Even categorizing this as a "conspiracy theory" has a purpose, to intimidate, ridicule and defamate the people that believe in it and discourage them from, because most conspiracy theories are like you said, bullshit made up by idiots.But in this case nobody had anything to gain from this, especially american citizens.And keep in mind thats not new for the Us government, its been an old plan since Cuba and the US governmet has been exposed for shady tactics and lying so many times, i mean i did Watergate scandal for my english clash in 9nth grade, us government is a rotten apple capable of litterally anything, thats not news, everybody knows that..

نوشتع شده توسط Khal.eesi, 23.07.2014 at 08:22

yes please do because all that i have read so far supposedly "debunking" is some pretty weak shit, government workers managed to come up years after.Even categorizing this as a "conspiracy theory" has a purpose, to intimidate, ridicule and defamate the people that believe in it and discourage them from, because most conspiracy theories are like you said, bullshit made up by idiots.But in this case nobody had anything to gain from this, especially american citizens.And keep in mind thats not new for the Us government, its been an old plan since Cuba and the US governmet has been exposed for shady tactics and lying so many times, i mean i did Watergate scandal for my english clash in 9nth grade, us government is a rotten apple capable of litterally anything, thats not news, everybody knows that..

Of course, i agree with you ...but that doesnt mean thats the case in every scenario, and of course this doesnt mean USA goverment didnt use 9/11.

The US government wouldn't be crazy enough to shoot down a plane and say the other side did it by accident, as this would be an obvious way of convincing the world the rebels are evil and should be destroyed - I don't think the US government would expect people to swallow the fact that a airliner was shot down by rebels by accident. A US government secret intervention one would expect to be much more eloquent and understated than blatantly blasting an airliner out of the skies, and certainly not another Malaysia Airlines one for obvious reasons. Therefore the separatists actually did shoot it down by accident.

نوشتع شده توسط Meester, 23.07.2014 at 01:01

نوشتع شده توسط UnIeashed, 22.07.2014 at 17:58

نوشتع شده توسط Skanderbeg, 21.07.2014 at 09:05

Americans ordered them to fly over east ukraine, then they ordered ukrainian nazis to shoot at it. So CNN and BBC can report how russians shoot it down and 300 innocent victims is russian fault. They are even ordering their loyal dogs like UK and Australia to blame Putin. Nothing new.

30 years ago they ordered flight control to send south korean plane over USSR, although everyone knew flying over USSR is forbiden and it will be shot down instantly, USSR was clear on that matter. Yet, plane entered soviet air space and was shot down, 280 dead koreans, cnn reported how evil communists killed ''free people of the capitalist world''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

25 years ago US navy shot down iranian civil plane over iranian territory, all crew and passengers dead. USA used excuse how they saw military plane, so they fired, i spit on your 700 billion technology if you cant recognize civil and military plane, go back to making dog house, thats technology for you. They didnt allow investigation of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Putin ordered help to be sent, and funds if needed for ukraine and dutch investigators. But hey! it doesnt matter if you cooperate and help, you are bad, you deserve to die.

What the fuck? None of that can be proven where is the evidence saying that?

Wheres the evidence saying Russia shot it down? If you switch on CNN or BBC all they say about the incident is its Russia's fault because of the war on Ukraine.

CNN is biased mate.