Community outcry

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen, but everyone can tell that our patience is being tried at this point. The longer features are missing that a good amount of players bought premium for, the more you will see stronger and stronger discontent. We deserve to know what's going on, please stop keeping us in the dark and making vague promises that "map editor is coming" we either deserve a honest update to what the hell is going on, or a release date period, or things will get much much worse. This is in no way a shot at ivan or sun, you guys are doing a great job, this message is directly for amok, the one who is glad to take our money but hesitant to even tell us what's happening with editor, all we get is "I'm busy" and "comming soon" I bought premium to make maps, and this might come off as aggressive but I'm tired, really tired of this.

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:55

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen,

Looks like you haven't played many games.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 13:58

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:55

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen,

Looks like you haven't played many games.

Not since html5 no, waiting for it to get better like we where told, but that's a whole diferent story, right now I only wish to create content which I enjoy doing alot.


Edit: nicer to admins not each other.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 13:58

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:55

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen,

Looks like you haven't played many games.

I don't know if I'm leading a sheltered atWar life but the community in this game is more tolerant of noobs than most others, and is still quite nice.

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That said, I want the map editor to come out too. I want to give making my own maps/scenarios a go.

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:59

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What would you say if Amok tell you this:

نوشتع شده توسط Amok, 06.04.2016 at 08:35

Guys, I'm terribly sorry for the delay, honestly. I really wish I could have a definitive answer for you, but at this point it's really difficult to estimate. The only thing I can promise it that it won't take as long as you might think
I'm currently really busy with real life stuff and trying to juggle between the two.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:03

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:59

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What would you say if Amok tell you this:

نوشتع شده توسط Amok, 06.04.2016 at 08:35

Guys, I'm terribly sorry for the delay, honestly. I really wish I could have a definitive answer for you, but at this point it's really difficult to estimate. The only thing I can promise it that it won't take as long as you might think
I'm currently really busy with real life stuff and trying to juggle between the two.

I addressed that in the op.

We deserve to know what's going on, please stop keeping us in the dark and making vague promises that "map editor is comming" we either deserve a honest update to what the hell is going on, or a release date period, or things will get much much worse.

So no, I really don't feel like that's acceptable after 90 days late.

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:24

I addressed that in the op.

Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:28

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:24

I addressed that in the op.

Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

There is nothing saying he has to do either other then what he says to us, after 6 months of development it should be done by now even if he give 30 minutes a day. I find time to work, Skype my girlfriend (lives in egypt) travel for work frequently over seas, play games, maintain my house, normal humans have time for work and there hobbies. Which is fine if we where not paying customers, which again alot of us bought the premium for map editor, which has been missing for half a year now. To be frank, this post is about no more excuses get your shit done period.

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:36

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:28

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:24

I addressed that in the op.

Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

There is nothing saying he has to do either other then what he says to us, after 6 months of development it should be done by now even if he give 30 minutes a day. I find time to work, Skype my girlfriend (lives in egypt) travel for work frequently over seas, play games, maintain my house, normal humans have time for work and there hobbies. Which is fine if we where not paying customers, which again alot of us bought the premium for map editor, which has been missing for half a year now. To be frank, this post is about no more excuses get your shit done period.

What he said is true , Clovis

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:55

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen

How high were you?

نوشتع شده توسط Al Fappino, 23.04.2016 at 14:45

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:55

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen

How high were you?

Would I not still be high?

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:46

نوشتع شده توسط Al Fappino, 23.04.2016 at 14:45

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:55

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen

How high were you?

Would I not still be high?

It's still a retard opinion about the community lel

Watch how they get rid of this topic, or ignore it.

Let me tell you guys a little story (true story) - take what you want from it.
There is this game called GTA5 - it was one of the most sold games of it's year and it's franchise. It was released with tons of features in campaign mode but no Online play like players were promised. Not to worry - online was released 1 month later and was horrible (due to servers). At least it had a good campaign so players did not mind waiting a little for servers to balance out and bugs to get patched.

Around November, servers were playable and players flooded them with many hours. People played GTA5 online like it was their job - but they all knew one major thing was missing. It was something that players looked at and bought the $60 just for it. Heists. Heists were advertised as free-roam bank robberies with intricate planning and lots of variety and fun. Rockstar (admins/devs) made an announcement saying they were going to be a bit late. The community took their word and played for a few months and asked again, when will Heists be out? Again they responded by the end of Spring (July). So everyone waited playing their game, but also putting in time for other game at this point.

We are at summer now, and Heists are no where to be seen, Rockstar has added in new features that were fun/cool for a few days but got boring really quick since everything cost-ed so much (in game currency) that you just had to grind hours and hours to earn. The community was very let down at this point, but many loyal fans remained - while beginning to search for another game to play on the side. One year anniversary began to approach with no news about Heists. There was lots of 'events' done leading up to winter and one year anniversary but at this point the player base had shrunk from one of the largest player bases to a medium sized player base.

In January, 1 year and 5 months later we finally get news and a trailer that heists are coming out in February with a sneak peak implying everything that was advertised (free-mode robberies, player based plans to escape, and everything you could want in a heist). The heists realised, and players flooded the game once again only to be let down with the heists. They were basically co-op campaign games with close to no freedom (since you had to do as it instructed) and got close to no money from them.

Players quickly left GTA5 and rarely go back on to play, and if they do - it's for short periods of time to mess around with friends. GTA5 online is more or less a ghost town (for a AAA game).

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For those who's skills are limited let me tell you what I would take away from it:
The longer admins take to release map editor, the higher the expectation(s) will be.

نوشتع شده توسط Al Fappino, 23.04.2016 at 14:47

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:46

نوشتع شده توسط Al Fappino, 23.04.2016 at 14:45

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:55

This community is one of the nicer ones iv ever seen

How high were you?

Would I not still be high?

It's still a retard opinion about the community lel

You are not apart of to many other communities are you? Trust me these are nice ameture trolls compared to other parts of the internet.

Helly,what games you played,do you need hug ?
If this community is one of nicest,we all should

But ya,i agree,admins, i think that map-makers shouldn't be this angry if they told that they can't finnish mapmaker in time...........

Why cry hell? its not like youre active to play this game. you shouldnt even be crying at all

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:03

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 13:59

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What would you say if Amok tell you this:

نوشتع شده توسط Amok, 06.04.2016 at 08:35

Guys, I'm terribly sorry for the delay, honestly. I really wish I could have a definitive answer for you, but at this point it's really difficult to estimate. The only thing I can promise it that it won't take as long as you might think
I'm currently really busy with real life stuff and trying to juggle between the two.

i didnt expect such idiotic answer on this from you,he said that this community wants real asnwer,not to be in dark with answers"i don't have time","it will come"....

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:28

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:24

I addressed that in the op.

Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

Lol,are you stupid?people work for 8h a day,and have their RL.......
In my situation:
I wake up(6h),go to college,dont skip any lectures.
After college(around 12h)i go to the restaurant where i work as waiter(working 4h(half of normal working time because im student) )
Then i come home,play this fucking game or go out. Im styding on weekends for exam
You dont need to lose RL to work,its just apology for laziness.
BTW, I know people that have much more no-free time,but they didn't lose RL

BTW2. Stop ball licking admins,you won't become mod,see how croat changed back to when he was times ago when he got that in brain.

نوشتع شده توسط AlBoZzZ, 23.04.2016 at 15:57

Why cry hell? its not like youre active to play this game. you shouldnt even be crying at all

as always you must answer,hes mapmaking,he has done more for this game than you will ever do for anything in your whole life.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:28

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:24

I addressed that in the op.

Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

When Amok gets paid from Atwar, to finish the map editor is part of his real life.

When Hell paid Atwar for this feature, he has the right to call for its implementation.

Just stop defending Admins (Ball licking) when time and again they have frustrated the community with untrue promises. Hell is not rage. Hell is enforcing his consumer right.

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 16:43

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:28

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:24

I addressed that in the op.

Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

When Amok gets paid from Atwar, to finish the map editor is part of his real life.

When Hell paid Atwar for this feature, he has the right to call for its implementation.

Just stop defending Admins (Ball licking) when time and again they have frustrated the community with untrue promises. Hell is not rage. Hell is enforcing his consumer right.

Are you even serious............

OK, I'll play your game. Did you pay for a Map Editor? Well you already have one >>>> Go use the Silverlight one.

Buying premium features doesn't gives you the right to complain about the implementation of new features, or in this case, the update of the current ones. You buy the Premium and accept the features as they are.

And for god sake, I don't always defend admins (overrated argument as fuck). But I can't stand people claiming for "rights" in an online game. Better be thankful that this isn't a pay-to-play.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 17:51

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 16:43

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 14:28

نوشتع شده توسط Helly, 23.04.2016 at 14:24

I addressed that in the op.

Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

When Amok gets paid from Atwar, to finish the map editor is part of his real life.

When Hell paid Atwar for this feature, he has the right to call for its implementation.

Just stop defending Admins (Ball licking) when time and again they have frustrated the community with untrue promises. Hell is not rage. Hell is enforcing his consumer right.

Are you even serious............

OK, I'll play your game. Did you pay for a Map Editor? Well you already have one >>>> Go use the Silverlight one.

Buying premium features doesn't gives you the right to complain about the implementation of new features, or in this case, the update of the current ones. You buy the Premium and accept the features as they are.

And for god sake, I don't always defend admins (overrated argument as fuck). But I can't stand people claiming for "rights" in an online game. Better be thankful that this isn't a pay-to-play.

i will just tell you bitch please.
EDIT:bla,i must answer.....
Go you make (NEW)map in Silverlight,and then try to load it here.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 17:51

OK, I'll play your game. Did you pay for a Map Editor? Well you already have one >>>> Go use the Silverlight one.

you should know by now that the silverlight editor is broken. it has been broken for over 6 months.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 17:51

Buying premium features doesn't gives you the right to complain about the implementation of new features, or in this case, the update of the current ones. You buy the Premium and accept the features as they are.

The old feature is broken, and can't be access with google chrome/opera/brave, because silverlight is no longer supported.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 17:51

And for god sake, I don't always defend admins (overrated argument as fuck). But I can't stand people claiming for "rights" in an online game. Better be thankful that this isn't a pay-to-play.

If atwar was pay-to-play we would still be here since we have premium, but you know who would not be here? RP players and all the other frustrated low-ranks who's rights you are always championing in forum.

نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 23.04.2016 at 18:01

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 17:51

OK, I'll play your game. Did you pay for a Map Editor? Well you already have one >>>> Go use the Silverlight one.

you should know by now that the silverlight editor is broken. it has been broken for over 6 months.

I saw your thread. Nonetheless just yesterday I went to edit my test scenario and it worked all fine.

I'm not sure where the problem is. Probably creating new scenarios. It is indeed a bug that needs to be fixed. I assume you reported it 6 months ago right? Or just a few weeks?

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 18:16

نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 23.04.2016 at 18:01

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 17:51

OK, I'll play your game. Did you pay for a Map Editor? Well you already have one >>>> Go use the Silverlight one.

you should know by now that the silverlight editor is broken. it has been broken for over 6 months.

I saw your thread. Nonetheless just yesterday I went to edit my test scenario and it worked all fine.

I'm not sure where the problem is. Probably creating new scenarios. It is indeed a bug that needs to be fixed. I assume you reported it 6 months ago right? Or just a few weeks?

Its actually more than that.

New Maps & New Scenarios can't be played even if they are clones of an already working map. Editing already existing maps is volatile as it could either glitch them or make them unplayable (it seems like borders and units are more likely to glitch than data such as cities and reinforcements.

this bug has been reported since the silverlight and html5 server got split. When I told admins about it, they said they were working and then i went inactive, but as you can see it has been reported over and over again.

Having to wait up to 2 weeks for a map to be playable is irritating.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 18:16

I saw your thread. Nonetheless just yesterday I went to edit my test scenario and it worked all fine.

I'm not sure where the problem is. Probably creating new scenarios. It is indeed a bug that needs to be fixed. I assume you reported it 6 months ago right? Or just a few weeks?

ok,you gone editing it,did you come back and try to play it?
just stop ball licking admins,i liked you more before,now you are like croat 3months ago.

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Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?

When Amok gets paid from Atwar, to finish the map editor is part of his real life.

When Hell paid Atwar for this feature, he has the right to call for its implementation.

Just stop defending Admins (Ball licking) when time and again they have frustrated the community with untrue promises. Hell is not rage. Hell is enforcing his consumer right.

Are you even serious............

OK, I'll play your game. Did you pay for a Map Editor? Well you already have one >>>> Go use the Silverlight one.

Buying premium features doesn't gives you the right to complain about the implementation of new features, or in this case, the update of the current ones. You buy the Premium and accept the features as they are.

And for god sake, I don't always defend admins (overrated argument as fuck). But I can't stand people claiming for "rights" in an online game. Better be thankful that this isn't a pay-to-play.

I assume you are joking. In the past, Atwar highlighted lifetime premium purchase as to include later upgrades and features (Of course they have changed now). In the matter of contract law, to deny them enforcing consumer right is breach of contract. In addition, the people may have grounds to sue in law for misrepresentation.

I assume you are joking again. To deny people claiming consumer rights is like denying people in America to enjoy democracy. You are immature and does not understand the importance of consumer right. People are not complaining for pay-to-win features. People are complaining for some untrue promises time and again made by Admin.

Chat shit, get banged.

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 18:45

In the past, Atwar highlighted lifetime premium purchase as to include later upgrades and features (Of course they have changed now).

It was never like that.

What they did grant you the right to was to access to future premium features. Not to demand them. You would only be right if the Map Editor was already available and implemented, then you get the access denied.

Sure calling someone immature helps to prove your point does it? Once again, you're wrong, as nobody is being denied it's right to use the feature. You guys do have access to a map editor (Silverlight one). The quality of it is questionable, however, the premium that you guys bought doesn't promise top-quality tools.

@ Promises I agree it was bad from their part. It doesn't grant you or the rest any right to demand updates however.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 19:40

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 18:45

In the past, Atwar highlighted lifetime premium purchase as to include later upgrades and features (Of course they have changed now).

It was never like that.

What they did grant you the right to was to access to future premium features. Not to demand them. You would only be right if the Map Editor was already available and implemented, then you get the access denied.

Sure calling someone immature helps to prove your point does it? Once again, you're wrong, as nobody is being denied it's right to use the feature. You guys do have access to a map editor (Silverlight one). The quality of it is questionable, however, the premium that you guys bought doesn't promise top-quality tools.

@ Promises I agree it was bad from their part. It doesn't grant you or the rest any right to demand updates however.

Silverlight editor is broken for over six months. Being able to vote in a designed election does not amount to genuine democracy. Similarly, being able to access to a malfunction system does not amount to effective access to the feature. People cannot use map editor now. It is an issue of right. Please do not mix the matter.

Anyway, I do not use map editor. I am speaking on behalf of J.Schumpeter and co who did pay to make maps. It is frustrating for them to be assured of promises which never come true. They have absolute right to demand a promise they relied upon. Could you please tolerate this side of Atwar? Could you please not defend admins (ball licking) every time this side of Atwar made a reasonable request? Could you please understand that if no one brings the community into attention admin will forget about this and suspend his promise to indeterminate amount of time? Could you please shut up and step aside?

Could you please not force J.Schumpeter and co to EAT SHIT??

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

Silverlight editor is broken for over six months.
Being able to access to a malfunction system amounts to effective access to use the feature? People cannot use map editor now. It is an issue of right. Please do not mix the matter.

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 18:16

I'm not sure where the problem is. Probably creating new scenarios. It is indeed a bug that needs to be fixed. I assume you reported it 6 months ago right? Or just a few weeks?

Please define "broken".

Furthermore,

نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 23.04.2016 at 13:18

While is nice that Jschumper will be able to play his own maps, it will be a shame when he notices that he can't host any map created before a server update.

The Map editor have a couple of bugs as Tunder said some posts above. However you can still edit your current maps and also create a new one (which will be available in the next server restart, as Tunder poined out above). What you're trying to do here is to make the current Map editor looks unusable, when in fact it is not.

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

Anyway, I do not use map editor.

I hope you realize that you're talking about something that you've got zero experience at.

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

I am speaking on behalf of J.Schumpeter and co who did pay to make maps. It is frustrating for them to be assured of promises which never come true.

نوشتع شده توسط Ivan, 23.04.2016 at 07:18

نوشتع شده توسط J.Schumpeter, 22.04.2016 at 01:28

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Map creators should always be able to host their own maps and scenarios, even without Premium. What you experienced was a bug that no one has reported - I've fixed it now.

I can see you were part of the group witch he by himself said that missed the point. His problem was pretty much that he could NOT start the map that he made not that he couldn't make maps.

His Issue has also been solved before this thread was made, therefore, this is a bad example for you to say "promises which never come true".

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

They have absolute right to demand a promise they relied upon.

I could promise you a car and give you nothing. Are you implying that you could legally demand me for that?

This is just a matter of ethic nothing else.

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نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

Could you please tolerate this side of Atwar?

Doesn't means that I will support a demand either, specially in a game. That's just irrational.

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

Could you please understand that if no one brings the community into attention admin will forget about this and suspend his promise to indeterminate amount of time?

They won't forget it - you're being dramatic.

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

Could you please shut up and step aside?

I'll stop talking with you after this comment. You've made it clear that you have no knowledge in the matter, and I started to get tired of your annoying comments such as this one:

نوشتع شده توسط Dragon, 23.04.2016 at 20:04

Could you please not defend admins (ball licking) every time this side of Atwar made a reasonable request?

You're telling this to the wrong person.