Ranking Up

Well, I think if someone won 1k SP in a Whole World 50k, they earned that SP through a lot of skill most likely (unless they farmed, but it is usually pretty easy to spot farming games right?). Maybe a bit of chance, but mainly skill, especially in the main room; everyone will always be doing their best to win and playing their hardest. To win, you have to have beaten all these SP-thirsty opponents (that takes skill).
I also thought, having a game min. limit would have a gradual effect in that a lot of 50k players wil start moving to europe maps. In fact, all large maps would have a decrease in players, and Europes would be the only real way to move up in the ranks (and a few other small maps).

I guess the goal is to punish farmers and force them to do it the normal way, but doing so would indirectly punish the people who haven't farrmed at all, and have ALWAYS followed the rules and guidelines the whole time they have been with atWar. Why should we make it even harder? It's already hard enough for them/us to rank up doing it the proper way...

If someone implemented this system, those people who have never farmed in their life, they would have a lot less incentive to play 50k's

With all the talk of farmers, we'll eventually have to have a mod present just to do a 50k game (in the future, of course)

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 08:48

World 50k IS NOT farming x2 sp in CWs IS though

I kinda agree... but 50k is also somehow a bit of a farm, specially compared to lower budget games.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:11

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 08:48

World 50k IS NOT farming x2 sp in CWs IS though

I kinda agree... but 50k is also somehow a bit of a farm, specially compared to lower budget games.

in world 50k u earn much sp if u kill rest map and spend 3hours there so u worth it.

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:13

in world 50k u earn much sp if u kill rest map and spend 3hours there so u worth it.

Ok, compare the sp won in 3k and 50k world games..... if that doesn't convince you, nothing will.

Stay on topic.. the thread is not about sp farming, more how a players rank should more accurately reflect a players skill level.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:15

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:13

in world 50k u earn much sp if u kill rest map and spend 3hours there so u worth it.

Ok, compare the sp won in 3k and 50k world games..... if that doesn't convince you, nothing will.

i think i deserve 3k or 4k sp when i reach max turn and im figthing since turn 1 against all.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:15

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:13

in world 50k u earn much sp if u kill rest map and spend 3hours there so u worth it.

Ok, compare the sp won in 3k and 50k world games..... if that doesn't convince you, nothing will.

You're Forgetting Turns Played And Time Devoted To The Game Itself, In One Long World Game ~40+ Turns At 5-6 Mins Will Earn 1k-5k SP And You Can Play Literally Dozens Of 3 min EU Games In This Time

نوشتع شده توسط Morgan The Brit, 09.06.2015 at 09:22

You're Forgetting Turns Played And Time Devoted To The Game Itself, In One Long World Game ~40+ Turns At 5-6 Mins Will Earn 1k-5k SP And You Can Play Literally Dozens Of 3 min EU Games In This Time

Just compare a 3k world game and a 50k world game, same amount of turns, same amount of enemies and allies, same amount of everything. Compare the sp earned in the same map with different starting funds... that's all I'm saying.

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:19

-irrelevant-

Compare the sp won in 3k world game and 50k world games. Answer my question.

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:19

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:15

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:13

in world 50k u earn much sp if u kill rest map and spend 3hours there so u worth it.

Ok, compare the sp won in 3k and 50k world games..... if that doesn't convince you, nothing will.

i think i deserve 3k or 4k sp when i reach max turn and im figthing since turn 1 against all.

simply repeating your point doesn't make it anyore relevant. Yes earn as much SP as you like, but spamming units whilst crushing a load of rank 5 6 allyfags doesn't constitute as skill. Of course something needs to be done to stop players such as yourself acheiving a rank above their skill set.

نوشتع شده توسط The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 09:31

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:19

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:15

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:13

in world 50k u earn much sp if u kill rest map and spend 3hours there so u worth it.

Ok, compare the sp won in 3k and 50k world games..... if that doesn't convince you, nothing will.

i think i deserve 3k or 4k sp when i reach max turn and im figthing since turn 1 against all.

simply repeating your point doesn't make it anyore relevant. Yes earn as much SP as you like, but spamming units whilst crushing a load of rank 5 6 allyfags doesn't constitute as skill. Of course something needs to be done to stop players such as yourself acheiving a rank above their skill set.

so u tell me u have no more points and start insulting? btw u cant do that(killing everyone in a world 50k)

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:29

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:19

-irrelevant-

Compare the sp won in 3k world game and 50k world games. Answer my question.

how much time takes a 3k game?

Http://prntscr.com/7eyl6s

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:36

so u tell me u have no more points and start insulting? btw u cant do that(killing everyone in a world 50k)

First: Learn to quote.. Aqui made thread showing you how.
Second: There is no insults, just fact's you do not like.

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:37

how much time takes a 3k game?

How long is a piece of string?

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:40

Http://prntscr.com/7eyl6s

This proves nothing apart from you got lucky in a duel. There is no way you should be a rank 11, fact, produce as many screenshots as you like.

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:37

how much time takes a 3k game?

Same or even more than a 50k since you don't have the money to spam units as soon as with 50k funds and not even in the same amount.
You're still not answering my question though.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:29

Compare the sp won in 3k world games and 50k world games.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 10:05

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 09:37

how much time takes a 3k game?
Same or even more than a 50k since you don't have the money to spam units as soon as with 50k funds and not even in the same amount.

no way thats a lie and u know it
You're still not answering my question though.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:29

Compare the sp won in 3k world games and 50k world games.

3k world game is retarded who does that omg

Also if it is so easy to win a world 50k go ahead and do it while i watch then i will ask sorry and i will say i am a noob.This topic got ruined by tsu hating and starting launvhing word noob against me cause i am better than him lol.

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 10:15

3k world game is retarded who does that omg

Speaking of insults...

نوشتع شده توسط Nations, 09.06.2015 at 10:15

Also if it is so easy to win a world 50k go ahead and do it while i watch then i will ask sorry and i will say i am a noob.This topic got ruined by tsu hating and starting launvhing word noob against me cause i am better than him lol.

I don't hate or care less about you, I just don't take kindly to you vandalising this topic by repeating the same irrelevant argumnets. As for who is better, I again, couldn't care less. Regardless of that I will duel you on any map with any funds any time.

I am ruining my own thread by calling you a noob? Please quote me on that because i have no recollection at all.

Support Viva La Grecia in the World 50k argument.

Guys, we have SP multiplier now... If any map earns 100% SP and you think it shouldn't , PM a moderator about it.

Sun Tzu idea could work, but I don't want to discourage players to "Play more and Win less". If one player earn 2k of SP in one game and other earn 1k SP in two games, IMO the first one should be the one taken into account as it was probably harder.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 09.06.2015 at 09:29

نوشتع شده توسط Morgan The Brit, 09.06.2015 at 09:22

You're Forgetting Turns Played And Time Devoted To The Game Itself, In One Long World Game ~40+ Turns At 5-6 Mins Will Earn 1k-5k SP And You Can Play Literally Dozens Of 3 min EU Games In This Time

Just compare a 3k world game and a 50k world game, same amount of turns, same amount of enemies and allies, same amount of everything. Compare the sp earned in the same map with different starting funds... that's all I'm saying.

But Thats Retarded, But That's Completely Unrealistic And Has No Bearing On The Game In Reality... 3v3 Plebs Man

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 09.06.2015 at 10:53

Support Viva La Grecia in the World 50k argument.

Guys, we have SP multiplier now... If any map earns 100% SP and you think it shouldn't , PM a moderator about it.

Sun Tzu idea could work, but I don't want to discourage players to "Play more and Win less". If one player earn 2k of SP in one game and other earn 1k SP in two games, IMO the first one should be the one taken into account as it was probably harder.

The idea is based on wins and sp... not to play more games as losses would count for nothing towards ranking up apart from the SP earned in that game. Again I am not questioning whether 50k games are deserving of the SP generated, that is not the issue. It is players that only play high SP scoring games achieve a higher rank than their fellow players a LOT quicker who play more games achieving lower SP but playing at the same skill level, meaning rank bears absolutely no reflection on the ability of players and is therefore meaningless. It is surely time for inflated ranks to be bought under control.

نوشتع شده توسط Morgan The Brit, 09.06.2015 at 10:59

But Thats Retarded, But That's Completely Unrealistic And Has No Bearing On The Game In Reality... 3v3 Plebs Man

PLEB - Person Lacking Educational Basics...

How is asking someone to make a comparison to prove a point retarded? If you have a valid point to make then make it. For someone calling people plebs and retarded you sure could do with an English lesson.

BTW... I havn't seen RPB play a 3v3 in nearly a year.

If the mods just keep doing what they've always been doing, people PM mods about suspected farmers, and the farmers are quickly caught and put to justice, there's no reason to change the system completely, when it could possibly be a change for the worse.

نوشتع شده توسط 12gsh, 09.06.2015 at 11:17

If the mods just keep doing what they've always been doing, people PM mods about suspected farmers, and the farmers are quickly caught and put to justice, there's no reason to change the system completely, when it could be a change for the worse.

This thread isn't about farming

نوشتع شده توسط The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 11:10

نوشتع شده توسط Morgan The Brit, 09.06.2015 at 10:59

But Thats Retarded, But That's Completely Unrealistic And Has No Bearing On The Game In Reality... 3v3 Plebs Man

PLEB - Person Lacking Educational Basics...

How is asking someone to make a comparison to prove a point retarded? If you have a valid point to make then make it. For someone calling people plebs and retarded you sure could do with an English lesson.

BTW... I havn't seen RPB play a 3v3 in nearly a year.

That's Not What Pleb Means
And The Point Is, That's NOT A Valid Point, 3v3 and 50K World Map Are ENTIRELY Different And No Comparision Like He Made Should Be Brought To The Table

نوشتع شده توسط The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 11:19

This thread isnt about farming

No, but I believe farming is one of the reasons the author posted this topic. As for the other reasons, I might can see as valid, but still stick to no support, as doing this would destroy any incentive there was to play 25-50k's, and cause europes and other small maps to be the only plausible way to rank up at a normal pace.

نوشتع شده توسط The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 09:17

Stay on topic.. the thread is not about sp farming, more how a players rank should more accurately reflect a players skill level.

The subject mainly is on SP farming. Since the reason of this thread is that some players doesn't have the accurate rank thx to SP farming.

نوشتع شده توسط Morgan The Brit, 09.06.2015 at 11:20

That's Not What Pleb Means
And The Point Is, That's NOT A Valid Point, 3v3 and 50K World Map Are ENTIRELY Different And No Comparision Like He Made Should Be Brought To The Table

Well this what the whole thread is about. Comparing skill games (3v3, 3k etc.) with spam games (50k world, most scenarios etc.) and why ranks should reflect ability more. So I deduce that he has every right to make the comparison.

I believe you are another player that has achieved an over inflated rank not reflective of their true ability. You have 500 wins... most skilled players by rank 10 have nearly 1000 wins.

نوشتع شده توسط Zone, 09.06.2015 at 11:29

نوشتع شده توسط The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 09:17

Stay on topic.. the thread is not about sp farming, more how a players rank should more accurately reflect a players skill level.

The subject mainly is on SP farming. Since the reason of this thread is that some players doesn't have the accurate rank thx to SP farming.

The SP multiplayer has proved to us that SP farming cannot be stopped completely. Therefore we need further measures to stop players achieving a higher rank than that of their skill set.

نوشتع شده توسط 12gsh, 09.06.2015 at 11:26

نوشتع شده توسط The Bastard, 09.06.2015 at 11:19

This thread isnt about farming

No, but I believe farming is one of the reasons the author posted this topic. As for the other reasons, I might can see as valid, but still stick to no support, as doing this would destroy any incentive there was to play 25-50k's, and cause europes and other small maps to be the only plausible way to rank up at a normal pace.

I am the author of this topic, I j replied in my alt because a few of the participants are ignored. (now i remember why).

It wouldn't destroy the incentive to play big money games because if players enjoyed playing them, then they still will, I mean why wouldn't they? they will still get upgrades from SP. This will encourage those players that only play 'spam games' to play other maps as well as high scoring SP games.