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ارسال شده توسط Waffel, 09.08.2016 - 13:54
Hello,

I am currently wondering why the hell people actually still stick to this game? (Including me). I mean this game has serious problems and I honestly have no idea what the people are doing to actually fix those problems? You guys can shout all you want that this game wont grow because of the less people and doing all you can. Let me tell you something about that.

We have currently around 200 people online at its highest peak a day. freaking 200 people... and even those 200 cant be controlled by 3 admins? (honestly Sun doesn't really count into game admin but more of an advertising admin, so 2 admins) and how many mods? You want this game to grow, yet the most important thing and actually the thing that is holding this all together is having humangous problems and I think alot of people are starting to get tired of the absence of those who can fix all of this. I mean, I dont know if you people actually understand how annoying and unsatisfying it is for the people to play in a server like this where you need to take in mind every fucking turn 'what if the server disconnects/crashes'.

Let me sum you up what exactly happends when people think that.
- Turns getting rushed, which leads to an uglier and less inconsistent gameplay. Its just unsatisfying to play or to watch.
- Games fail.
- People don't hold anymore in CW's because they dont want anyone to suddenly disconnect and remake all over again
- People end their turn in the middle of the turn so they can save their moves if the game dc's, not to mention forgetting to save everytime you make a move...
- People play less turn based games, because people want to do their games as fast as possible, scared for the disconnection passing by any moment.
- People lose their interest in remaking a game they hosted for 5 times now because of the disconnects.

People go offline, perhaps stop the game because its not a simple game anymore and just don't like it as a whole anymore. We are charged for things we didn't ask for, things we didnt want and things we certainly dont need.

And I may sound unthankful, disrespectful or even like a whine ass, but seriously its time that you take control of this game, how it should be. I feel like (my own opinion) we aren't listened too in any kind of way, I feel like we are getting ignored, problems are getting put in the silentbox and people are even getting punished for standing up for all these flaws.

Not to even mention the amount delay of the map editor version. It is seriously getting a hold of this game and I think it might even cost us all the game if this last like this for to long.

If you cant handle it, atleast say it so we know what's upp and we can help you. Because honestly it seems like you guys could use some help.

And this was mostly about the server disconnections, there are still way way way way to much things that need to be fixed. Lets atleast start with the most important one?

#SaveAtwar

Thanks.
10.08.2016 - 10:03
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10.08.2016 - 10:04
WOW! Seriously, this is the first time I have EVER upvoted Waffel, EVER! (After 2 years in the game.) I didn't even read the rest of the typical AtWar dribble, I just upvoted Waffel because I agreed with what he had to say, for once, and could care less about the rest of it. Nicely put Waffel, WTG.
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10.08.2016 - 11:04
نوشتع شده توسط Warmonger Dak, 10.08.2016 at 10:04

WOW! Seriously, this is the first time I have EVER upvoted Waffel, EVER! (After 2 years in the game.) I didn't even read the rest of the typical AtWar dribble, I just upvoted Waffel because I agreed with what he had to say, for once, and could care less about the rest of it. Nicely put Waffel, WTG.

Thank you, make sure to upvote me more in the future.
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نوشتع شده توسط Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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10.08.2016 - 11:13
Waffels right on this one. Was part of the reason i stopped playing. Ivan mentioned he was moving city/job last time i mailed him(over a month ago) but amok has been awol for what, 6 months now? The whole mapmaker situation is ridiculous.They are only performing basic maintenance on the site at current. There's no developement. There are tonnes of bugs and server crash issues that need addressing.
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10.08.2016 - 11:23
نوشتع شده توسط The Tactician, 10.08.2016 at 07:04

There are many different routes that can be taken, not necessarily leading to the sale of the game. Fully, at least.

For example: A hired coder that isn't doing it mainly for the money can get a humble wage and 5-15% of AW 'shares' or whatever. That way, when the game grows -with his assistance- the coder makes more money. Or perhaps agree to a fee of x once the game reaches x value or has x players, that way they pay him, but just when they have the money.

Look, I'm not a finance expert or whatever, and what I'm proposing may also have difficulties, but there are alternative solutions to selling off the game or letting it to die.

Personally, I doubt they'd agree with anything that involved money... u.u
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10.08.2016 - 11:57
نوشتع شده توسط Oleg, 09.08.2016 at 16:09

نوشتع شده توسط Waffel, 09.08.2016 at 15:32

نوشتع شده توسط Zephyrusu, 09.08.2016 at 15:26

PS: wondering how come no one has taken admins' side yet

Because there are no sides..

We all want the same thing.

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Pavle, did you just upvoted yourself.....



Anyway yeah waffel is right, but that's something we already know. Tact on the other hand is giving out a solution which is what we need.

Basically to point less the problems and more the solutions to such problems. For every 2 or 3 threads about servers there is at most 1 comment giving out a solution.
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10.08.2016 - 12:18
نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 11:57

نوشتع شده توسط Oleg, 09.08.2016 at 16:09

نوشتع شده توسط Waffel, 09.08.2016 at 15:32

نوشتع شده توسط Zephyrusu, 09.08.2016 at 15:26

PS: wondering how come no one has taken admins' side yet

Because there are no sides..

We all want the same thing.

inbefore croat or clovis come*




Pavle, did you just upvoted yourself.....



Anyway yeah waffel is right, but that's something we already know. Tact on the other hand is giving out a solution which is what we need.

Basically to point less the problems and more the solutions to such problems. For every 2 or 3 threads about servers there is at most 1 comment giving out a solution.


The solution is Amok gets off his ass and makes a map editor... The community cant solve this problem.
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10.08.2016 - 12:29
I just came here to see how much clovis is ass kissing mods.
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10.08.2016 - 12:37
نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 11:57

Tact on the other hand is giving out a solution which is what we need.

I did too
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10.08.2016 - 13:05
Waffel can be a bitch, waffel can be enoying, but waffel always speaks out he's thoughts withoud any bullshit attached to them. Go waffel
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10.08.2016 - 13:26
نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 11:57

Anyway yeah waffel is right, but that's something we already know. Tact on the other hand is giving out a solution which is what we need.

Basically to point less the problems and more the solutions to such problems. For every 2 or 3 threads about servers there is at most 1 comment giving out a solution.


You remind me of this:
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10.08.2016 - 14:01
نوشتع شده توسط Phoenix, 10.08.2016 at 12:18

The solution is Amok gets off his ass and makes a map editor... The community cant solve this problem.


That's called a Win-Lose deal, and I hardly doubt you'll get Amok to simply abandon his life obligations to make the map editor.

Hiring a programmer to do it instead though, seems more reasonable.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 10.08.2016 at 12:37

I did too


Kurdos for that.

نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 10.08.2016 at 13:26

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 11:57

Anyway yeah waffel is right, but that's something we already know. Tact on the other hand is giving out a solution which is what we need.

Basically to point less the problems and more the solutions to such problems. For every 2 or 3 threads about servers there is at most 1 comment giving out a solution.


You remind me of this:


Oh look another "Because it's 2015" guy quote. I'm afraid that goes beyond my knowledge Tunder. Would you mind explaining it to us?
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10.08.2016 - 14:21
نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 14:01

نوشتع شده توسط Phoenix, 10.08.2016 at 12:18

The solution is Amok gets off his ass and makes a map editor... The community cant solve this problem.


That's called a Win-Lose deal, and I hardly doubt you'll get Amok to simply abandon his life obligations to make the map editor.




نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 14:01

نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 10.08.2016 at 13:26

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 11:57

Anyway yeah waffel is right, but that's something we already know. Tact on the other hand is giving out a solution which is what we need.
Basically to point less the problems and more the solutions to such problems. For every 2 or 3 threads about servers there is at most 1 comment giving out a solution.

You remind me of this: "If you kill your enemies, they win"

Oh look another "Because it's 2015" guy quote. I'm afraid that goes beyond my knowledge Tunder. Would you mind explaining it to us?


I am just going to borrow a page from tito's book: Clovis there is a reason no one bothers to talk to you normally anymore. I'll make fun of you for some more time and then ignore you like everyone else.
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10.08.2016 - 14:23
نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 14:01

نوشتع شده توسط Phoenix, 10.08.2016 at 12:18

The solution is Amok gets off his ass and makes a map editor... The community cant solve this problem.


That's called a Win-Lose deal, and I hardly doubt you'll get Amok to simply abandon his life obligations to make the map editor.

Hiring a programmer to do it instead though, seems more reasonable.

نوشتع شده توسط RaulPB, 10.08.2016 at 12:37

I did too


Kurdos for that.

نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 10.08.2016 at 13:26

نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 11:57

Anyway yeah waffel is right, but that's something we already know. Tact on the other hand is giving out a solution which is what we need.

Basically to point less the problems and more the solutions to such problems. For every 2 or 3 threads about servers there is at most 1 comment giving out a solution.


You remind me of this:


Oh look another "Because it's 2015" guy quote. I'm afraid that goes beyond my knowledge Tunder. Would you mind explaining it to us?


So why doesn't he hire a programmer?

Again nit something the community can solve, I even suggested this myself...

Its down to the games owners to solve its problems
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10.08.2016 - 15:57
I fully agree, The only reason i'm even able to read this at all is because i wanted to see how some of the people i used to know were doing. Other than that i see little to no reason to log on to this site anymore
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10.08.2016 - 16:13
نوشتع شده توسط Phoenix, 10.08.2016 at 14:23

Again nit something the community can solve, I even suggested this myself...

Its down to the games owners to solve its problems


I agree with you, but we're still able to give out ideas
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10.08.2016 - 16:14
نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 10.08.2016 at 14:21

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I'll be impressed if you win PotY acting in that way.
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10.08.2016 - 18:36
نوشتع شده توسط clovis1122, 10.08.2016 at 16:14

نوشتع شده توسط Tundy, 10.08.2016 at 14:21

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I'll be impressed if you win PotY acting in that way.

Im impressed theres still people like you in this game who give a shit about PoTy
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10.08.2016 - 22:33
To summarize this thred:

- Waffel got the point, said it very clearly and passionately, I have to agree and support him. In first period I supported admins and believed in their words, but now it's fully obvious those were lies to satisfy our wishes and stop the pressure. This map editor reminds me of the loading scene while installing a game, it comes to 95% in 5 secs, but you have to wait 7 years, 5 months and 26 days until it comes to 100%.
And about servers, Amok&Ivan, I'm gonna send you a bill of my new mouse and laptop's keyboard, they died cuz of your not giving a shit about shitty servers. And my nerves gone very wild. RIP old mouse. RIP old keyboard. I miss you

- Pavle upvotes himself through another account he used a month ago and stopped using it right after he joined evoL (acc called Zlo).
Very nice try, but stop being so fucking desparate to improve your dead reputation, you annoying clown.

- Skitz is back

- Waiting for Goblin's meme
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10.08.2016 - 23:46
Inb4 map editor comes out in a few days and waffel claims its because of his thread
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11.08.2016 - 03:11
نوشتع شده توسط Croat, 10.08.2016 at 22:33

- Waiting for Goblin's meme


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11.08.2016 - 13:20
نوشتع شده توسط 1GodofWar1, 10.08.2016 at 23:46

Inb4 map editor comes out in a few days and waffel claims its because of his thread

Ofcourse it will be.
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نوشتع شده توسط Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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11.08.2016 - 14:31
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اکانت حذف شد
Agree
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11.08.2016 - 15:35
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Amok hire me I'm a dev w web development experience

upfront I'll do $40 an hour

Atwar, I'll give you ur editor in no time (server tho idk that shit could cost cash)
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نوشتع شده توسط Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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13.08.2016 - 17:34
نوشتع شده توسط Waffel, 13.08.2016 at 17:30


waffel is shaking his head
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13.08.2016 - 17:34
He is probably angry that the thread is not turning into a flame war
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13.08.2016 - 17:40
نوشتع شده توسط b0nker2, 13.08.2016 at 17:34

He is probably angry that the thread is not turning into a flame war

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نوشتع شده توسط Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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13.08.2016 - 18:09
Finally someone really do something for atwar.Instead of insulting each other, gangbanging and raping you should make something like this and support people like Waffel.
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17.08.2016 - 13:27
I proposed implementation of auto save ajax functionality that will help this game a bit http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=24665 but didn't get many upvotes. Honestly this should have been done long ago.
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