What the cw season has become
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ارسال شده توسط Silent One_deleted, 22.08.2014 - 11:55
Then we have CT the teams in second place. At least the approach of CT is slightly different, the leaders/officer of CT dont say point blank"no cw", they at least give the impression of a cw be it via pr or global notwithstanding the fact that when whenever we actually appear for said cw ppl disappear or it is cancelled for one reason or another( some rather embarrassing but what was said in private I will leave there for the time being). I thought cw was about good fun challenges and that sort of thing but it appears that there are mostly pretenders more concerned with a trophy by any means. Of course all of this is further indication of course that the cw system needs changing but this was already known, more within our control is the spirit of the players and the general attitude towards cw.
Love Mou or hate him, while we may think that evol won due to a flawed system or not, Evol PLAY, they played all in the last season and still make themselves available, and I am sure Mou might love the opp to play Illy also, I dont know how even he could be denied the opportunity after all that nice fertilizer and effort he spent last season on the Iands of Ilyria .
Do I think SOM are better than Illy? OF COURSE NOT! Actually far from it , Do I think we can actually play a game and maybe offer some sort of fight , of that I think we have a chance.It seems to play though we have no chance,. Maybe some clan should find someone to beat 20-0 in the next couple days and I think the champions elect might suddenly from no where find appetite to play .This is the only competition I can think of where position 1 can be there without even playing the no2 &3. Well what can we do? I guess I can make a post so I share my thoughts, have it trolled by a few and soon enough eventually locked due to irrelevance or trolling. Anyway enough said.
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Discussed in PR, this cw happened and I proved it to you in PR too.
Discussed in PR, also proved you are wrong since I never say you serbian walled.
Discussed in PR too. Illyria had never played syndicate best team nor Syndicate had played illyria best team. I see it irrelevant that you post "Syndicate best players" as of the 6 cw you posted 2 of them wheren't against syndi best combination. 4 wins against syndicate best combination? well we also had get wins against illyria best combination.
We didnt discussed this in PR since you wheren't replying. I think evoL best clan because they train, they dont use cheap tricks( i,e rewall, serbian wall) And they where cwing even though they where number 1. You also remember that MOU asked for give MK the first place too. I think is very fake that you say they where only cwing while their 1st place was untouchable as I dont remember a time where evoL refuse to cw for a tropie ( as illyria and MK do). A clan doesnt need to be NICE. I do agree that illyria deserve 1st place on this season as I say, but not 1st clan nor best clan of this season for the reasons already explained. Just a personal opinion 
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Mods are probably going to lock this, anyway. This has become a flamming war with two clan insurting each others. I cleared my suff with Laochra on PR so I dont really have somenthing to talk here. See ya topic! ( Mods lock plz)
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you explained in pr that you were confused about who was on what account. it all sounds to me like you were being trolled by syrian. none of this has anything to do with illyrias clan wars performance. you never stated i serbian walled, you stated "2) A cleary victory from syndicate, Stealed by own laochra. Then come with cheap argument's like " Ankara was not walled" " Shut up". Very cool. Poor Tuncbey." then proceeded to declare that illyria use cheap tricks like serbian rewalling and rewalling, implictly stating that i used such cheap tricks to "steal" that victory from you guys. not to mention that waffel himself in that cw accused me of serbian rewalling, clearly not understanding that in order to serbian rewall a city, an enemy wall has to be present the turn before. what i did was merely kill the wfs surrounding ankara and erected ym own wall there. perfectly legal and acceptable play. we played combinations of your best players, as i correctly stated. and you played combinations of ours. this is 100% true, there is nothing to contradict here, and i have the screenshots of the cw reports. if you feel there are better syndi players than you and eagles, by all means name them. you say evol are best clan because they train? we train and have a training clan. you say theyre the best because they dont use cheap tricks? syrian and pont were in evol, both serbian wall and rewall. since apparently the actions of 1 clan member represent the entire clan that means evol serb wall and rewall too. MOU eventually decided to offer 1st to mk, against the wishes of many of his clanmates. this doesnt make them the best clan, it simply means mou has some sense of fairplay. like crimson tide should. i would appreciate clovis, if you would stop coming to every thread to argue with and contradict me with nonsense, logical fallacies, conjecture, fabricated stories, and generally pointless walls of text.
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I am talking about it was an unfair cw with illyria both ranks and skills advantage. In the first chase, I cant really tell you if we interpretated it wrong or Illyria informed wrong. On any chase, the 2st one really surprice us as we where playing with both ranks and (omg why so much repeat) skills disadvantage. Also pointing that you say " Me and acqui would never allow that" on PR.
I never say you serbian walled and you cant relate theses two post at your own. No sorry, I say you dont serbian wall but your clan does. Very bad from your part mix theses two separate arguments. Yet serbia wall and rewall are cheap tricks which your clan use. (irrelevant how you explain it here as I already say you didnt serbian walled in PR).
LOL, if there is not contradition why you do even mention this? I dont remember any 2vs2 CW me eagles vs illyria top tier( acqui and skenderbeu, according to you). 3vs3 is another history ( yet illy still didnt beat our 3 best players). ( Irrelevant how you post it as we already cleared it on PR).
I will never understand why such valious players like you and Joed support theses cheap tricks ( Serbian wall, Rewall) even though I've never saw your two using it on CW or Duel. However, I find it pointless to compare two clans( evoL and Illyfication) as it have obvious result. EDIT*: Also, you support rewall and serbian wall so I dont see why you say " 1 clan member mean all the clan" ?
► I have more years that you in this game.   ► I started to post on forums first that you too.   Since I came first, I am not contradicting you but YOU contradicting me. If we would define it as the threat's owner then you also are the one who started contradicting me first, so I started to contradict you in other post. This contradiction still exist now and I would appreciate that you show some respect to your oldest
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i support rewall because i use it sometimes even in cws and duels. and me, pontez and syria started to use rewall/serbwall when were in evol. just clearing up some miss information
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"[gl] ●The Almighty: I WAS JUST ALERTED THAT STATE OF MIND HAS 1 MEMBER ONLINE. STATE OF MIND WILL CLAN WAR" Sorry lold at the trollness. This thread is fantastic. Listen, any clan to go 19:1 deserves first place. You can not tarnish the streak Illyria has on Syndicate, SM, MK... But there is 1 clan I do not see on that 20 games streak, that's evoL.. funny right? Anyways still deserve is regardless.. But now I see Laochra just dug a grave for himself. "MOU purposely lowered comp, bla bla bullshit spewing from my mouth".. Haha wow! Just when I thought that was over with, we have some egotistical maniacs bringing it up.. I mean is Mods confirming no foul play was involved not enough?cry bro? you mad? Some people can't handle the fact that we legit won first place last season, yet continued to CW regardless if our first place was in danger. Now as I said MK did deserve it since any clan to go 17:3 should beat a clan that went 15:5 etc... Now in my eyes, this can be compared to what Mortal Kombat did not too long ago.. They had fantastic season, starting 18:2 and all left Mk to join an alternate MK clan so they did not ruin first place.. History repeats itself.. Except Illyria had dignity to stay in their clan... Also let us discuss Illyria vs evoL... I for one refuse to Clan war against syrian-force due to bugs. He is capable of it and brags of him knowing about bugs.. I don't want to have to worry about screenshotting every damn turn in a clanwar against this guy, no time for that. I will cw any other member in illyria just like I have before... JUST REMEMBER ----------------> Illyria 19:1 --------------------> No wins against evoL
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Honestly i clap for evol because even tho they reached #1 with over 1500 points they kept cwing! But illyria has no shame! #1 clamining to be the strongest clan in aw and stopped cwing. They cry about us asking small clans for cw and farming them. The only reason why we do that is because Illyria has been refusing to CW us or ANYOTHER clan in aw!!! http://prntscr.com/4fk9vp Is this suitable for #1 ranked season clan? Yall should change name to Bla
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evol kept cwing because they could not be touched even if any other clan went 20:0, so why would the not stop ? if any other clan was close they would of stoped. and commando why have ct not been looking for cws all season but once we take 1st place off them they suddenly ask for cws ?
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its hard to beat a clan that never accept your cws mate 
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Yeah man I feel you... and then they use the excuse "we're all AFK"
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CT is a shit clan, and innate knows it, when my alt was in CT, it was all about picking clan wars and exploiting wall bugs. CT can't play the victim, if you remember back then: innate wanted me to use my "alt" to cw.
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One of the many reasons why AW is stagnant in its growth is because every problem that is addressed in a thread often becomes crowded with players that are too busy arguing for themselves, rather than anything else that would be for the betterment of AW. This is one of them. This thread is going nowhere. Let's shift the focus back on the problem of the clan war system which seems to be the root cause.
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Hat off to you bud
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i gotta agree with this,
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Such lies and hypocrisy.How can you live with yourselfs pathetic people, have you no sense of character dignity and shame?First of all, now all is sucking up to Mou and evol and use their last season, as a premise for their weak argument against Illyria.Whatever lol.I remember most if not all you guys, were calling evol fags and trashing them.Such change of heart, suddenly. And to clear once and for all CT lying propaganda,we were trying to cw you like hell and you were constantly denying.You were demanding chill or hollister to play and you wouldnt allow a combination of aqui,lao,syrian,me,joe, which is illyria basic players.After denying us repeatedly, Illyria managed to get to the impressive 19-1 and then suddenly you changed your minds and went berserk, asking us to cw.Fuck that and fuck you, hypocrits.
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1 week ago, maybe it was 2, we tried to cw evol. myself khal and syrian vs you devil and someone else. on the first attempt the picks started. syrian missed both his picking chances due to lag, you called us all trolls and left. you clearly have some issues with syrian that im not aware of as you then told me not to let 1 player ruin illyrias relationship with evol. lots of people have issues with syrian, but i wasnt aware you were one of them. after some convincing, you made a second cw. i joined and the cw started. i didnt get to look at the settings, nor did i even get to pick my colour. picks started and devil picked ukraine, i went to pick turk only to find i had insufficient funds, the game was a 5k. i was not aware that we had agreed to a 5k cw, and apparently neither were khal or syrian. i objected, you declared illyria were all trolls and that evol would NEVER cw Illyria again. and there was no reasoning with you. khal syrian and devil can confirm this happened exactly as i have described, as devil had been trying to organise a cw vs us and i dont think he was too impressed with how all this happened. since then there has been not even a discussion of a possible cw between Illyria and Evol. You made this choice, and refused to reason with me. So you should not come to this thread and state there have been no cws vs evol as if its somehow our fault. You made this choice for your clan.
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you need to stop responding in this thread. Crimson Tides goal this season has been blatantly apparent to everyone with eyes. you have played just over 20 cws, which have been calculatedly picked based on your chances of winning, with the sole intend to win the season. Do not attempt to take a moral highground. you and you particularly have no buisness doing so. Evol had 1500 points and continued cw since there trophy was untouchable, we would continue cwing too, if it wasnt for Crimson tide calculatedly farming cws off weak clans. hell they even took 2 wins off our training clan. and if they continue on this path they will win the season, and unless we stoop to their level, we wont be able to stop them. pathetic players, your the clan version of bluecher2, i hope youre proud when you get the trophy, an empty coalescence of pixels on the internet, to highlight what a shitty clan you are. and you wonder why most the other clans hate you guys?
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SM #1
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Ok it comes a moment when enough is enough. Im not insulting you or your players. I explained before,the reason why we cwed with weak clans is cuz there was no one else online. You said illy is active in all timezones. Yesterday it was joed and war online and they witnessed me asking 1000 tomes in global for cw and i asked koed too but he refused the cw.a And i quote agaon, to cw with strong clans we need our strongest players oNline. At least we cw with our own accounts. If skender wants to cw with illyria so much then let hom join with illy and play with his alt in your training clan. Speaking of your training clan, you guys did a good job teaching them how to bypass walls during a cw nice job doing that since illy is well known as the most cheating clan EVER in history of aw, and the number one prize goes to syrian and his hacks during game. Before you talk again about me in particular or any ct member wash your mouth and start playing fair. Letting syrian use chills account for rank balance during cw is very very low action for you to do. You lie you the other clan making them think you are cwing with rank 8 when in reality you cw with rank 10. Nah you dont deserve rank 1 in season until you start playing fair. I see your accounts and they look to me like hotels,everyone uses them even players outside illyria. Shame shame shame I
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There are a lot of contradicting posts. Regardless of how right each of you guys think you are, flaming does not help. Constructive criticism does, and so does having the balls to admit your wrongdoings and working together to avoid them in the future. This thread otherwise has no aim. Grow up.
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you particularly have numberous times asked for a cw in global with us responding with an "ok", we go to the cw room, wait 5 mins, no other members appear, i check your clan to see youre the only ct member online, with perhaps 1 other on but afk. do you deny this happened? this boy who cried wolf scenario happened on at least 2 occasions in the past month with me in particular responding to your troll cw requests in global. so forgive me if your cw requests in global arent taken seriously. illyria has never cheated in a cw, ever. i dislike rewalling and serb rewalling but i dont condemn those who do so since i have no basis within the aw rules. i myself have been a victim of both by numerous players across several clans, even though i do attempt to counter them. i have two choices, i can bitch and moan about these "cheap tricks" and die repeatedly to them as you and clovis do. or i can pinpoint the players who use such tactics and use counters. do not make up false sensationalist claims just because youve been shown up for your own weak character and sportsmanship. as i already said all information on account swappings before cws was informed to the opposing clan.
leaf you seem to be an idealist, youre not wrong but we're dealing with certain members of crimson tide and clovis. constructive criticism and attempts at critical self evaluation are not traits you'll find in such people. the only thing this thread has taught me is that Crimson Tide are both shameless and incorrigible. and that ive some issues to sort out with my clanmembers.
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Lol you tellin me that illy members never passed accounts to one another for "rank balance"? Because if you say yes you will be pointed as biggest liar ever. You forfot jow many times syrian has hacked? Lets be forreal. Illy carries #1 with a big shame, you guys always find an exuse about everything. If ct would be #1 and stopped cwin you guys would be crying so much in forums. CT was #1 and even tjo you guys jad points near us we still kept cwing. The only reason you are #1 is because kugers dc in a cw against evol. Sinnce you got no guts to cw us tjen dont open you mouth about us farming. As for my character dude u dont even know me in real life, yes i jave a real life cuz i dnt spend 10 hours on aw like tou and your frienss in illy. So stop being so hypocrite and get a pair of balls tos cw us
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nope we have never, feel free to provide proof that we have. i have warned syrian if he ever used bugs in a cw or duel for any reason, i would kick him. but please, do provide proof of all these times syrian has hacked, we know he possesses knowlege of bugs, but so do many other players. if you have legitimate proof please provide it to the mods. You can cw us, but you better bring your best, as you will face our best. im sorry if the skill advantage a team of me skend acqui or syrian possess makes you think the cw is unfair, but this is why we went 19:1 playing clans like mk and syndi, while you farmed illyrification winterfell and Mortal Kombat!(deaths clan). Eagle i couldnt care less about your real life, i can only make judgements off what im presented with both in game and here on the forums. you are a poor sport and an average player with a big ego and an even bigger mouth. if in real life youre a lovely guy then good for you, kindly try bringing some of that to your online persona. as for your alleged vibrant social life good for you. in spite of it we certainly still see more than enough of you on atwar. and it certainly doesnt stop you from trolling us with fake cw requests while you start cws against lesser clans. you can post here that illyria are cheaters, secret account swappers and various other drivel all without a shred of proof. but at the end of the day youre fooling nobody as we all see you for what you really are, a poor sport with a big mouth. perhaps you should consider other forms of entertainment or hobbies than atwar which dont require you to interact with others, like perhaps gardening. Anyway im done arguing with you, enjoy your saturday night, im sure itll be wild.
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How to know when you should stop arguing: ► Insurts. This is flaming war. I am requesting MODS to lock this threat. I know your fell commando, but there is no proof that syrian or any other illyrian cheated. Dont talk unless you have proof of it ( I commit the same error ealier. I fell sorry for it.) Clans doesnt need to be nice.... there are clan which are nice and there are clans which are not. This is have the same as use as Rep on atWar. Be nice clan mean the same as have higher reps( nothing). Good that Laochra admit that he dont like rewall  Because I used to be FULL HATE against it, but now I am just neutral: Dont either support or hate it. I only use it against people which had used it against me ealier. And people are getting more a neutral posicion that hate or love, there will come a time where people will not care about rewall.Without matte what is proved here, people individuality in the community will have an opinion about what clan they think is best. I personally think is evoL.... but that is MY OPINION. You have the right to opinate which clan is the best too, but you dont have the right to argue about it. Mods, please lock this.
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No need for a lock. We seem to be in the clan wars section, and we seem to be discussing clan wars. We also seem to be on topic. Just tone down the insults in your posts and that's all that needs to be done. Opinions and arguments are good. I am completely against wall glitching, but the "serbian wall" is pretty alright. Probably not the place to discuss that though. Laochra seems to be on the ball here. Also, while we're on the topic of insults;
Interesting response. Shame that this light has faded, as I am indeed inactive, and have been going inactive for the better part of a year now. In my recollection of the past, we've also asked for many CW's that have been declined for some reason or other. Doesn't excuse the fact that we have a sheer number of CW's over yours, even our rate of CW's from our recent inactive season we have nearly 3x yours. Your 31 to our nearly 80~ You have no defence. Laochra has already explained in his posts and others have as well.
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I'm aware. Usually people with such traits are less willing to actually listen once they realise their ego is being questioned. It's usually best to break things down to its simplest form to make them realise why what they have done is so wrong. Otherwise, this happens. In other words, you basically need to baby them to be able to get through to them.
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Really appreciate these comments. We worked hard for a #1 trophy, were by far the most active, and played any clan that challenged us so I can confidently say we earned the top spot. I'm hoping we can see more friendly competition and less cry threads in the future as well as some revision to the CW system
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