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08.09.2015 - 12:49 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
Well in this case, reverting the changes doesn't simply mean clicking the undo button. Also in your title you've only mentioned PD, when infact ALL strats are affected by this. So currently just changing PD won't balance anything. I suggest you just close this topic since mods are already poking the admins.
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08.09.2015 - 12:54
Nerf PD and you will be in a situation in which all non-PD strats are better at defense now (but still not stronger than PD)
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08.09.2015 - 12:59 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
yeah so -2 actually makes it weaker than other strats in defense.
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08.09.2015 - 13:11
For most it will be the same defense when they are inside a city, but PD still has cheaper infantry and +1 defense when fighting tanks. If we nerf PD with -2 Defense, the following strats are the only ones that have infantry that are equal to PD (the rest have attack/defense penalties): Naval Commander Master Of Stealth Iron Fist Lucky Bastard
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08.09.2015 - 13:15 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
so you want perfect defnse to have the same defense as those strats.
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08.09.2015 - 13:16 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
incase you didn't see.
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08.09.2015 - 13:24
I did see it, but it didn't add anything of value to the conversation. I will reply out of courtesy
Of course not, Amok has to click 2 !!!
I only proposed a nerf for PD, there is no need to add all other strats.
It will, at least to some degree
Oh sorry, i forgot mods are the only people in atwar that can have an opinion.
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08.09.2015 - 16:21 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
Of course it added value to the convo we had, because there's no point to this thread. Also Amok has to click "2"? does clicking 2 make magical things happen? wowe mang.
Of course there is. You realize, that this defense buff adds changes to all strats using infs for main defense, since they already have +1 in cities with None strat enabled. Heck, do you even know that NEUTRALS are a little more op with this recent change.
As I said above, all strats are affected by this buff. When was the last time you even played a 3v3? or a CW? or a Duel? That's right, about 3 months ago, seems like you don't know much buddy.
Hey I didn't say that. I said mods are dealing with the situation HOW YOU WANT IT TO BE. They want it to be how it was before, when everything was somewhat balanced and PD didn't need to oh-so-needed -2 defense that you are preaching. Anyone with a brain and can read the forums will know that there are problems with what Amok currently "fixed". Anyone can have an opinion, but I'm just finding this ridiculous.
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08.09.2015 - 16:31
of course i know that, but the neutral bonus can't be fixed by a nerf, and i am aware of the bonus that all infantry got (which i support because RA was op)
that is irrelevant, a lot of competitive players stop playing and still have valid opinions about competitive subjects (i am by no means claiming to be a pro, but i am not some random RP noob ;p)
I already changed my mind about the -2 defense, i like Tacts idea more:
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08.09.2015 - 16:42 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
Hmm, cool... interesting...
WELL THEN. We seem to change minds easily, don't we. Well I should tell you that you just contradicted yourself. And, well, you're probably clueless now. You stated that neutral bonus can't be fixed, well it wasn't there before... so obviously you can. The power of codings is more than you think. >aware of bonus that all infantry got(which I support..) Err okay, but.. >[Tact] remove inf defense in cities completely. Are you out of your mind? Am I being trolled? Or are you just being somewhat stupid.
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08.09.2015 - 19:48
I could have easily entrenched my self on the -2 defense idea.
Of course amok can code a exception into neutral infantry (but that is not a nerf, its coding), a nerf to PD infantry is more practical.
buddy, there is multiple ways to solve a problem, removing the infantry bonus to all but militia is one of them, -2 defense to PD is also another
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08.09.2015 - 21:00 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
Before:
Now:
But?
I see some contradictions. >say neutral bonus cannot be fixed >i tell him how amok can easily fix >of course amok can code an exception (but that's not a nerf, that's coding) Mate, the game is coded. All the nerfs, are through changing numbers in the CODE. >one way of solving problem is removing infantry bonus to all, or remove -2 def to PD >he already changed his mind about -2 to pd >remove -2 def to pd >to pd >bonus to all >pd This just tells me you don't understand the game right now. Play with PD, play against it. Cry to me about your rolls against PD, then we can agree on something.
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08.09.2015 - 21:29
Please nerf pd like it was before. I didn't ss battle report but today I rush enemy cap with 25inf + 2 mil + 1 gen & my ally gw helped with 15 marines VS 19inf+gen of my enemy, and he won by 3-4 inf....
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08.09.2015 - 22:26
Bad rolls happen, it varies quite a bit Earlier today 25 pd inf and gen got capped by 54 inf and gen of imp i believe with 12 to spare
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09.09.2015 - 18:07
please quote me on this one, i never say it was impossible to fix them.
What do you think is easier? change a number from "2" to "0" in the code or to code a few lines to add an exception to neutral infantry?
I understand the game, stop making assumptions.
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10.09.2015 - 10:52
what it will just go back to how it is before They did it to PD, which I won't complain about. Stacking strats and defensive play is still stronger though. With this defensive boost, they may not do anything to RA, which I'm fine with.
---- We are not the same - I am a Martian. We are not the same - I am a... divided constellation?
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10.09.2015 - 13:56 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
I was responding to tunder about that lol. I just put your name cos it was from your quote, I was showing how tunder contradicted himself. I support removing the bonuses in cities and to revert changes.
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10.09.2015 - 14:02 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
Well changing the number from 2 to 0 is much easier. If we do this for neutral infs (1 to 0) then this is giving an exception to it, as opposed to infs with other strats that have bonuses in cities(PD)
Other people thought the same, then they fought against PD and saw the insane rolls. You haven't played a game in 3 days. This change came about 5 days ago if I'm correct (don't quote me on tht) and these games you played, none were on the standard map.
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10.09.2015 - 17:09
So is the ridicilously overpowered PD fixed now or nah?
---- Someone Better Than You
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10.09.2015 - 17:13 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
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10.09.2015 - 17:16
And that means...?
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10.09.2015 - 17:24 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
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10.09.2015 - 21:13 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
The thing is, it hasn't been proposed in other threads but this. Other threads state reverting changes which means removing all bonus defense in cities (this includes all strats)
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10.09.2015 - 21:33
Damn just lost 60 inf on a city with 22 inf this is really bad
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10.09.2015 - 21:46 Stryko اکانت حذف شد
A nice upvote to you sir. This guy understands.
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